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Post by Wayoff on Jun 26, 2009 11:17:14 GMT -5
Raiderband, don't forget 'your team' also played 4 or 5 Sebrings of today as well. Each of these teams only had one real test a piece and passed. 2001 vs The Ville and 2005 vs The View. Playoffs were about the same with the 01' team facing Col Station and shutting them out and then advancing against one hell of a JFK team that I believe the 05' team might have struggled against, but we will never know. They then lost to the best team the Raiders have ever played against, the state champs from Bedford Chanel led by Tony Franklin. No Raider team would have beat them, and yes they are better than the UHS team we faced just two years ago. The 05' team defeated Rittman and then beat the View in a rematch before needing a little luck to pull out the NW game, but I'd rather be lucky than good and believe I'm not complaining haha. Then they were just outgunned by PH which is a shame. Had either of these teams been able to win their respective games, the Raiders might have two trophies, but what if....
And now I'm not one to knock on players, Kris D was a great athlete and a tremoundous kid! But lifting strength is not always an indicate of playing strength, there is correlation, but how many players is Kris Davis Squatting while hes in the huddle? Not saying his strength was great, but he didn't necessarily have 'football power' that many thought he had. And I highly doubt he ran a 4.42 as he probably would have been on the track team winning state, that might be a bit high for him, but he did have wheels for a fullback. YOu might be a little young, but you might want to check out the best smallest, fastest TRUCK ANYONE has ever seen from SR in Chris Madeline. Davis or anyone else doesn't compare to this man.
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Post by the unit on Jul 9, 2009 1:07:23 GMT -5
Best team hands down is the South Range 2001 team ask any former player. If they played any other SR team the jv's would be in starting the 4th quarter. Best players on that team King, Johnston, Johnson, Sanders, Novak, Maxwell, Vizi, Everett and so on. Most important they knew how to play as a team and everyone did their job.
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Post by jasonreager on Jul 10, 2009 18:21:02 GMT -5
Best team was the 2002 Bulldog Squad. They beat Range, Crestview and Columbsybanana, 10-2, overall. That squad had much talent, the most the old TCL, and the present ITCL, seen since the '56 Dog squad that went unbeaten. That squad took the Dogs to the D4 playoffs, the only TCL/ITCL team to make the D4 playoff, and go two games into the playoffs. They beat a d**n good Black River team only to lose to Ursuline, and Ursuline continues to be a roadblock for all in the present D5, including Range.  |
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Post by Guest on Jul 19, 2009 14:22:40 GMT -5
That Bulldog team lost to a 6-4 springfield team. Lowellville was the best TCL and ICL team that 2002 year....give me a break they had two good players. Crestview was 2-8 or 1-9 that year so dont act like you beat a powerhouse creastview team.
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Post by bulldog1974 on Jul 19, 2009 15:02:35 GMT -5
That Bulldog team lost to a 6-4 springfield team. Lowellville was the best TCL and ICL team that 2002 year....give me a break they had two good players. Crestview was 2-8 or 1-9 that year so dont act like you beat a powerhouse creastview team. First off, your spelling is terrible. Second, that game in Springfield raise many eyebrows as to being on the level. Third, that '02 Ep team would have handled any ITCL team to present. Fourth, go back into your dark hole and rot. You have no idea of the success that '02 Ep team had and let me task you as to this question.....when was the last time a team from New Middletown beat South Range? Lowellville may have been good, but they could not have beat Ep that season as Ep had more than "two players". Now go away and come back when you have real facts....  Oh, ya, wasn't Lowellville privy to some xfers from Campbell and Struthers that season? |
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Post by justafan on Jul 22, 2009 10:04:50 GMT -5
The 2002 EP team was a good team but don't get carried away. There are three ITCL teams that would have beaten that EP team. 2006 South Range, 2007 South Range, and 2008 Crestview so they wouldn't have "handled" all ITCL teams to date. I actually think the 2003 Columbiana team was better than that EP team and the 2005 Crestview team would have put a beating on them(as well as any other TCL team since '95, so I'm not singling out EP)
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Post by bulldog1974 on Jul 22, 2009 16:11:10 GMT -5
The 2002 EP team was a good team but don't get carried away. There are three ITCL teams that would have beaten that EP team. 2006 South Range, 2007 South Range, and 2008 Crestview so they wouldn't have "handled" all ITCL teams to date. I actually think the 2003 Columbiana team was better than that EP team and the 2005 Crestview team would have put a beating on them(as well as any other TCL team since '95, so I'm not singling out EP) Time for your medication.....Those squads will never get to play, but on paper, the teams you mentioned would lose to Ep. I am willing to argue the point. Dogs beat Black River in the first playoff game and that Black River team would have beaten the ones you mentioned. And of course, even one of the best South Range teams got hammered by Ursuline, just like we did. So?  ? |
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Post by Tigerfan on Jul 22, 2009 21:11:54 GMT -5
Ep lost to a 6-4 springfield team in 2002. They were a good team but not the best. I would go as far as not even in the top ten since 2001 in the ICL/TCL/ITCL upper and lower.
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Post by justafan on Jul 23, 2009 11:21:54 GMT -5
The 2002 EP team was a good team but don't get carried away. There are three ITCL teams that would have beaten that EP team. 2006 South Range, 2007 South Range, and 2008 Crestview so they wouldn't have "handled" all ITCL teams to date. I actually think the 2003 Columbiana team was better than that EP team and the 2005 Crestview team would have put a beating on them(as well as any other TCL team since '95, so I'm not singling out EP) Time for your medication.....Those squads will never get to play, but on paper, the teams you mentioned would lose to Ep. I am willing to argue the point. Dogs beat Black River in the first playoff game and that Black River team would have beaten the ones you mentioned. And of course, even one of the best South Range teams got hammered by Ursuline, just like we did. So? ? On paper? On paper, that EP team got shut out by a 6-5 Springfield team, struggled to beat a 7-4 Leetonia team, and beat a 7-3 Colubiana team by a TD then squeaked out a playoff win at home. The 2005 Crestview team lost to the second ranked team in the state on a last second field goal, won every league game by at least two TD's in a year in which they played the league's #2, #3, and #4 teams ALL on the road, beat an 11-2 Columbiana team by 21 on Columbiana's home field, and won on the road in Week 11 against the defending Region 17 champions. Over 12 games, that EP team scored 356 points and gave up 197. Over 12 games, that Crestview team scored 455 points and gave up 148. So they scored 99 more and gave up 49 less for a grand total of 148. Over 12 games, that is an average of 12.33, or about two TD's per game. Are you still willing to argue the point? Anyone that saw those two teams knows there is little to no comparison. Tigerfan got it right. That EP team was very, very good, but they would not have beaten... 2001 South Range 2003 Columbiana 2005 Crestview 2005 South Range 2006 South Range 2007 South Range 2008 Crestview I'd put the 2002 Bulldogs on about the same level as 2004 Crestview, 2004 South Range, 2003 Lisbon, 2005 Columbiana, 2006 Crestview. The 2001 and 2005 South Range teams and the 2005 Crestview team would have all went up and down the field on the Bulldogs. |
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Post by bulldog1974 on Jul 24, 2009 4:58:16 GMT -5
your right, with your post Justafan. However...You cannot compare the playoffs. You had two different divisions D4 Ep and D5 Crestview and Range. So that comparision cant really be made. And as I said, that squeak of a win against Black River was against a team that would have beaten the ones you named. So we can argue all day and night, and it isn't worth it.
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Post by Set it off on Aug 7, 2009 18:31:41 GMT -5
Nick Menichini from Ridge last played in 2004. All State Defensive End , NEO Defensive MVP.
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Post by clipdog on Aug 21, 2009 6:43:13 GMT -5
Macky Mcgeary, I think everybody has been tackled by him at least once.
and Josh Harrold, 3, yes 3, 50 yard field goals...IN HIGH SCHOOL ! almost every kickoff was in the end zone, and still managed a crap load of td's on offense.
I also like Selway from Leetonia, talk about talent..talk about heart. Every kid out there should hope to half the player he was !!!
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Post by itcl fan on Aug 30, 2009 20:23:15 GMT -5
Being from EP and playing with most of them I won't try and rank them: JD Powers Zac Dunn Smitty Kendrew Brett Young Craig Ward Steve Clark Rob Clark Chris Clark Joe Thompson Adam Harvey I'll give it a try for the other schools but I'm sure I'll forget some guys. Columbiana (a lot of good ones but I'll try and rank the top 5) 1. Derek Garrod 2. Mike Welce 3. Mike(?) Geer 4. Joe Winters 5. Tim Reash Others: JP Jenkins, Drew Wagner, Greg Sell, Joe Buday, Adam Fast, Andrew Peathingy, Josh Hertel, Ryan Williams, Corey Guy Crestview **(I'm not really familiar with the 2001 squad so I'll go 2002 to present) 1. Jordan Reynolds 2. Nate Yarwood 3. Andy Walton 4. Coty Bilsky 5. David Myers Others: Adam Thompson, Shayn Danks, Zech Parker, Keith Drewnowski, Tony Britton, Corey Hill Lisbon 1. Jay Yorty 2. Josh Grafton 3. Vince Browne 4. Dana Rose 5. Corey Smith Others: Caleb Crowl, Frank Gallo, Andrew Ketchum, Aaron Hochman, *I'm not sure but wasn't there a good running back named Adams that played in 2001? United 1. Corey Manfull 2. Jordan Wrask 3. Mitch Phillis 4. Bubba Taylor 5. Marcus Dangelo (sp?) Others: Zane Rea, Joe Briceland, Bryan Phillips, Jimmy Phillis, Tyler Boyle, Andrew Johnson Springfield 1. Nate Schuler 2. Aaron Wood 3. Dan Schuler 4. Luke Summers 5. Melio Rios Others: Dylon Dejane, Corey Cunningham, good OL in 2002 can't remember his name South Range (I only remember one name from 2001 even though I'm sure at least one other person off that team would be in the top 5) 1. Jason King 2. David Rach 3. Matt Schlatter 4. Russell Dawson 5. Kris Davis Others: Ryan Maxwell, Ben Johnston, Tony Darkadakis, Greg Snyder, Alex Grantz, Joe Novak, Steve Bensinger, Jack Dawson (top 5 after this year), Mike Leskosky Mineral Ridge 1. Levi Leigh 2. Micah Hall 3. AJ Zitello 4. Hack 5. Keirsey (sp) Not very familiar with MR but I'm sure they have a lot of good players since 01. i like the picks on columbiana thats funny with the corey guy he was really good. and i like the joe winters he is the only rb with back to back 100 yard seasons. i think the next great out of columbiana is going to have to be grant crider. he is gonna take all state honors this year as he was just missed last year with 170 tackles as a free safety. look for him to really impress a crowd this year and possibly bring home a ITCL championship and maybe state as he leads the RED DEATH defense |
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Post by Guest on Sept 3, 2009 7:08:47 GMT -5
Being from EP and playing with most of them I won't try and rank them: JD Powers Zac Dunn Smitty Kendrew Brett Young Craig Ward Steve Clark Rob Clark Chris Clark Joe Thompson Adam Harvey I'll give it a try for the other schools but I'm sure I'll forget some guys. Columbiana (a lot of good ones but I'll try and rank the top 5) 1. Derek Garrod 2. Mike Welce 3. Mike(?) Geer 4. Joe Winters 5. Tim Reash Others: JP Jenkins, Drew Wagner, Greg Sell, Joe Buday, Adam Fast, Andrew Peathingy, Josh Hertel, Ryan Williams, Corey Guy Crestview **(I'm not really familiar with the 2001 squad so I'll go 2002 to present) 1. Jordan Reynolds 2. Nate Yarwood 3. Andy Walton 4. Coty Bilsky 5. David Myers Others: Adam Thompson, Shayn Danks, Zech Parker, Keith Drewnowski, Tony Britton, Corey Hill Lisbon 1. Jay Yorty 2. Josh Grafton 3. Vince Browne 4. Dana Rose 5. Corey Smith Others: Caleb Crowl, Frank Gallo, Andrew Ketchum, Aaron Hochman, *I'm not sure but wasn't there a good running back named Adams that played in 2001? United 1. Corey Manfull 2. Jordan Wrask 3. Mitch Phillis 4. Bubba Taylor 5. Marcus Dangelo (sp?) Others: Zane Rea, Joe Briceland, Bryan Phillips, Jimmy Phillis, Tyler Boyle, Andrew Johnson Springfield 1. Nate Schuler 2. Aaron Wood 3. Dan Schuler 4. Luke Summers 5. Melio Rios Others: Dylon Dejane, Corey Cunningham, good OL in 2002 can't remember his name South Range (I only remember one name from 2001 even though I'm sure at least one other person off that team would be in the top 5) 1. Jason King 2. David Rach 3. Matt Schlatter 4. Russell Dawson 5. Kris Davis Others: Ryan Maxwell, Ben Johnston, Tony Darkadakis, Greg Snyder, Alex Grantz, Joe Novak, Steve Bensinger, Jack Dawson (top 5 after this year), Mike Leskosky Mineral Ridge 1. Levi Leigh 2. Micah Hall 3. AJ Zitello 4. Hack 5. Keirsey (sp) Not very familiar with MR but I'm sure they have a lot of good players since 01. i like the picks on columbiana thats funny with the corey guy he was really good. and i like the joe winters he is the only rb with back to back 100 yard seasons. i think the next great out of columbiana is going to have to be grant crider. he is gonna take all state honors this year as he was just missed last year with 170 tackles as a free safety. look for him to really impress a crowd this year and possibly bring home a ITCL championship and maybe state as he leads the RED DEATH defense Unfortunately there are 10 other players on that defense |
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Post by ChuckMan26 on May 27, 2010 15:09:53 GMT -5
The GREATEST season South Range has ever had, and the GREATEST team was the 2005 season some players of key: Steve Bensinger Kris Davis Matt Schlatter David Rach JC Willison Tom DeChellis and so many more... The best SR team was without a doubt the 2001 team. King, Sanders, Kimmel, Coburn, Vizi, Johnston, Johnson just a few to name. That team would kill any other SR team. You're crazy. |
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Oh, ya, wasn't Lowellville privy to some xfers from Campbell and Struthers that season? 
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